That led to my being invited back on 4 February for an interview about the UK expected new definition of anti-Muslim hatred (see the 15 December 2025 BBC News website story "Ministers finalising definition of anti-Muslim hatred.")
It was a longer conversation with Mike Ryan, about 22 minutes, which was longer than most of my interviews. This allowed us to get into the issues in some detail.
My most important messages were:
The European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) requires freedom of speech. [See Article 10] However states are allowed to have some limitations on freedom of speech. For example you cannot say that Mohammed Amin should be killed.
I understand that the proposed anti-Muslim hatred definition will not create any new criminal offenses. It is expected to be guidance for the Government, and for any other bodies that choose to adopt it.
We have total freedom to criticize all religions in the UK and will continue to have.
I explained the problems with the 1997 Islamophobia definition, and the 2019 Islamophobia definition. Both are discussed in detail on my page "The word Islamophobia should be abandoned."
I used Mormons (members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) to illustrate how parts of the media deliberately promote a negative image of Muslims by being selective about what news about Muslims they cover.
I also used Mormons to illustrate the kind of hate speech that I do want the law to ban.
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